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  • colingauvin 3 hours ago
    One thing I have been using LFM 2.6 for is annotating emails, text messages, and other metadata. I keep it all ingesting into one giant database and annotate it all as it comes in on an RTX A4500. The LFM annotations are basically triage, and then slowly annotations trickle into my halo model based on lowest confidence (right now that's DeepSeek 4.1 Flash 1017) for an upgraded annotation. (Agents can then search this database for context).

    Excited to roll out LFM 3 to replace it, looks like a big step up. Right now LFM 2.6 gets trustworthy annotations on just over 40% of data points. Just waiting for these to get into LocalAI.

    • ashkankiani 1 hour ago
      You're doing something similar to what I've been prototyping for the automatic metadata enrichment part. So far I've been using deterministic older techniques + manual for my personal data stream, but I'm trying to learn what the state of the art is for efficiently annotating data with LLMs and newer ML.

      This seems interesting, but if anyone else is also doing a similar thing, I'd appreciate tips on how to approach it. So far, I think I have some small RAG model in a demo or the very small qwen models. I think fine tuning seems interesting too. Some of the decision models applied in layers (like a binary search on a pre-generated corpus) could be fast enough to help too?

      idk too many options, i'm sure this is a solved problem lol

    • nico 1 hour ago
      That's very cool. I'm curious if you need a GPU for your use case (email and text triaging). There are some open source alternatives[0] that run/train on CPU, so you can self-host or run locally (and train on your own data for better accuracy), would something like that work for you?

      0: http://jeffyclassify.com/

    • Aerialoo 1 hour ago
      I can highly recommend gliner2.5, been using it for tagging news articles, fine tuned on my home 5090 in a few minutes on 500 articles tagged by gpt 6.1, works fantastically. Deployed on hetzner running on a cpu .
      • samstevens 1 hour ago
        gliner-style models are absolutely crazy, I learned about them a couple weeks ago when a co-worker fine-tuned an LFM encoder for promptable classification. as far as I know, you don't need to fine-tune; you can just prompt for classification. My co-worker's demo is here: https://huggingface.co/spaces/LiquidAI/prompt-routing
    • pritambaral 3 hours ago
      Have you considered fine-tuning on your dataset?
      • colingauvin 3 hours ago
        Seeing the fine-tuning guides that are coming out with LFM3, I am now considering it :)

        Would be a fun experiment.

  • lubitelpospat 42 minutes ago
    Surprisingly (or maybe not?), LFM3-VL-2B gave me better results than LFM3-1.7B on text-only prompts (general knowledge, chatting) through liquid playground. As an example, when asked “what does a cow say?”, LFM3-1.7B said that a cow can say “Oink”, and when I asked the same question to LFM3-VL-3B, it (correctly) said “moo”. I assume this is lower quant problem, though: Q8 versions I’ve played with through llama both give the correct “moo” answer.
    • samstevens 38 minutes ago
      quantization is always a problem; what quant were you using?
    • taneq 29 minutes ago
      What do they say if you ask what cows drink? ;) Actually I’d be curious whether they would justify ‘milk’ with ‘when they’re very young’.
  • samstevens 3 hours ago
    I worked on this release, happy to answer questions/chat about local AI vs cloud frontier models.
    • Powdering7082 2 hours ago
      I am seeing the following in the reasoning trace:

      > However, the instructions say I must use available tools when answering questions.

      On "What animal lays the biggest egg?" with no system prompt

      I assume this is something baked into the model through lots of RL with tool use?

      • samstevens 1 hour ago
        Which specific model? and are tools available? I would say that there is lots of RL with tool use, but that the reasoning traces are not always perfect. In general, models think about things that might be wrong, but will recover from this poor line of thinking.
      • liquid_richie 2 hours ago
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    • hypfer 3 hours ago
      In a few words: Why should I care about this?

      What makes it cool? What should make me go "oh yeah let's go"?

      From what I can see by skimming the document, I would assume "something something specialized use-cases", but what does that mean? And what does it mean assuming I have attention deficit?

      • samstevens 3 hours ago
        Depends on what you care about.

        If you want to do local classification/image processing, I think the d1-2B is amazing, it can run on 1GB of unified RAM.

        Now that it's released and I have weekends off again, I'm going to play with the VL-2B model and the d1-2B and see if I can prompt it to control a small Lego robot arm like this https://bricksrl.github.io/ProjectPage/

        If you like agents, I think the 1.7B is very strong for its size and can be used to automate small stuff like classifying emails, cleaning your downloads folder, etc.

        It can also be fine-tuned for specific use cases with SFT/DPO/GRPO. The blog post talks about fine-tuning for wind-turbine classification. If there's things you want to automate, but GPT-6-Luna is not strong enough, and bigger models are too expensive, you might fine-tune one of the LFM3 models and use it locally for repetitive tasks.

        • colingauvin 3 hours ago
          No weekends. We need you to get back to work on the next 8B.
      • 0xbadcafebee 1 hour ago
        It's a model designed to be tiny and still functional, unlike other larger models that are just scaled down and then run into problems (doom loops, intelligence/reasoning failure, tool call failure). You use it when you want a fine-tuned tiny model processing text/audio/video on multiple platforms. (I don't work for them but this is my takeaway)
      • liquid_richie 3 hours ago
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    • rullopat 2 hours ago
      Congrats for the achievement!

      I'm curious if this model would be useful for OCR or at least text documents parsing (PDF, DOCX, etc.), what do you think?

  • kooi 1 hour ago
    Looks really neat. I'm keen to try this on my clicks communicator when that arrives.

    It's mediatek NPU claims to handle ONNX. That plus the 12GB ram makes the wonder if I can get this phone to be a mini-agent.

  • dchuk 1 hour ago
    Just tried both the Omni model and the text only model, both as mlx versions, in lm studio omlx and rapid mlx, none of them could actually fire the model up, kept saying safetensors cant be read (yes I realize Claude should hear this not this thread).
  • Philpax 4 hours ago
    Post not up yet, but the models are: https://huggingface.co/collections/LiquidAI/lfm3
    • pember 4 hours ago
      Title is: Introducing LFM3: Every Modality for Specialized Intelligence
  • syntaxing 2 hours ago
    I’ve been using 2.6B as my main home assistant model and it’s been good. I switched to Ling 3.0 Tiny since it’s faster with A1B. Really hoping 1.7B is good enough (2.5 version was too dumb for HA) so I can run everything on one machine.
    • samstevens 1 hour ago
      what does your home assistant do? a general siri/alexa-style model? or something else?
  • butternet 2 hours ago
    Loved playing with LFM2.5 and excited about this!
  • jauntywundrkind 3 hours ago
    Agentic coding numbers on par with Qwen3.5-4B, the rest of the numbers on par with Qwen3.5-9B. Most impressive for a 1.7B model!

    Liquid has also been very good about keeping speed in mind, and the writeup here makes me expect similar. Really good stuff.

    • UncleOxidant 12 minutes ago
      Is anyone going to seriously use a model this small for coding? Doesn't seem like the intended use case or strength of these models.
  • good1andrew 1 hour ago
    has anyone tried finetuning one of these yet?