16 comments

  • Lammy 13 hours ago
    I love the track from Escape From Noise (1987) that predicts our current housing crisis and criticizes the hypocrisy of anti-development mindsets and Prop 13 and all of that by comparing it to the way people talk about firearms prohibitions.

    “When no more can be sold, you can see that the majority of adults will be virtually prohibited from ever owning one” — “so if you've always admired parts of Piedmont or Orinda…” — “well you could buy one, if you could convince someone to sell you his, and if you're willing to pay his price” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vPCIWbCOyY

    (I will be at this irl btw)

    • yorwba 10 hours ago
      There was a housing crisis in 1987, too: https://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/02/opinion/l-time-to-be-seri... I'm not sure there ever was a time without a housing crisis.
      • reaperducer 8 hours ago
        I'm not sure there ever was a time without a housing crisis.

        There really hasn't been.

        As bad as it is, the current housing crisis isn't nearly as bad as it was back in the 1930's and 40's.

        Back then it was so bad that the government ran ad campaigns begging people to rent out their spare bedrooms, dens, garages, etc.

        • mitxela 7 hours ago
          That sounds like a different type of crisis - people paying an acceptable price but not having as much house as they'd like. In current year there's a regulatory floor on how much house you can pay for.
          • reaperducer 1 hour ago
            Shortage is shortage. When you don't have a bed, you don't care why.
  • AndyNemmity 14 hours ago
    I played Negativland on my radio show which was played on pirate radio in LA through Killradio.org

    I remixed them, music, and dense political talks for a one hour show.

  • NDlurker 15 hours ago
    I love Negativland. Very interesting use of samples. Their album with Chumbawumba is really cool
  • jordanb 14 hours ago
    I once changed a person's mind on flock cameras by showing them the More Data music video.
  • etc-hosts 13 hours ago
    playing tomorrow at the Internet Archive in San Francisco!
  • cobbzilla 15 hours ago
    Evolution Control Committee had some wild stuff too in a similar vein. Totally not on Spotify, sooooo many copyright issues.

    a good album— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarhythm_Nation

    • fzzzy 7 hours ago
      Don't forget Rebel Without a Pause
    • burnedbyhell 14 hours ago
      The fucking moon.
  • n2p5 14 hours ago
    Gimme the Mermaid is a work of art.
  • ofrzeta 13 hours ago
    Negativland is a name I haven't heard in about 30 years. They were comparatively famous in the 90s, I guess, due to using the U2 samples.
    • adfm 1 hour ago
      I thought is was the letter U and the numeral 2.
  • spacechild1 10 hours ago
    I love their albums! I was lucky enough to see them live 1-2 years ago. They performed their latest album and they still got it! Their satirical approach to sampling translates well to the 2020s.
  • sixothree 2 hours ago
    I learned that Russia has 11 time zones because of Negativeland.

    I would also not describe this music as timeless. It's incredibly hard for me to imagine people coming to this music fresh today.

    • adfm 1 hour ago
      You are referring to the former Soviet Union. Russia is currently trying to claw them back, which is why the US and the rest of the world are in a big 10-8 place.
  • polytap 15 hours ago
    I accidentally got New Coke, I poured it down the drain.
    • Obscurity4340 5 hours ago
      New Coke was a psyop so they could replace cane sugar with high fructose corn syrup. Sure we'll go back to the "old recipe", all the way to the Bank

      Cokers ate it right up

      • sixothree 2 hours ago
        The thing is people knew. Coca-cola "aficionados" recognized the change for sure. Living in the deep south it was quite a thing.
      • Finnucane 5 hours ago
        "We're not that smart, and we're not that stupid."
  • classified 13 hours ago
    I have Negativland in my music collection. If you can, treat yourself to Escape from Noise and The Playboy Channel from the 1987 album Escape from Noise. Unforgettable.
  • uoaei 15 hours ago
    This guy was an internet friend of mine, claimed to be mentored by one of the Negativland guys, and definitely carries the flame with his weekly(-ish) releases. They used to play hella late night Thursdays on KPFA, not sure if that's still going. Give it a listen!

    https://nationalcynical.bandcamp.com/

    • xtiansimon 7 hours ago
      > “This guy was an internet friend of mine…”

      Was? Did you have an internet failing out? Or did one of you stop using the internet?

      • Finnucane 4 hours ago
        Hey, you know, internet friends can just grow apart. It's a natural result of getting internet older.
  • ratelimitsteve 2 hours ago
    keep trying to listen to Negativland but then my mind just turns to Pepsi, and I couldn't tell you why...
  • johnea 14 hours ago
    Damn, makes me want to jump on a plane to SFO tomorrow morning...
    • VectorLock 14 hours ago
      Doesn't sound like many of them are going to be there, so I wouldn't feel the need to as well.
  • weare138 13 hours ago